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Heyuri user discovers elaborate scam

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4 Name:Anonymous 2022/01/10(Mon)13:42

>I've discovered an elaborate scam by some very smart people using lightshot.

>~~>>16503~~ is me, I was playing around and found one with login details (https://prnt.sc/2067230) and a bank card, so i went to that website and exclaimed, because there was 100k in bitcoin and eth, so i tried to withdraw it and it said "please send 0.005 bitcoin to this adress for confirmation". I didndt have any anonymouse bitcoins laying around so I saved it and went back to the game, lo and behold, 5 minutes later, i find another one (https://prnt.sc/1339847), i am still not suspicious until my friend who is also searching finds this https://prnt.sc/1347421, yet ANOTHER one, this time using the same details.

>When we logged into either accounts we noticed that they both had the same amount of btc/eth and the same transaction history. Now we knew it was a scam.

>So these scammers set up multiple fake trading websites around the internet, make these honeypot screenshots (to lure in morally questionable people to steal it), then, to confirm the transaction, the morally bankrupt individual has to send 100 dollars to the scammers btc address. The confirmation fee is completely fake, and you just lost 100 dollars, and your getting no stolen bitcoin!

>Anyways, this is your Heyuri CyberCrime lesson of the day. Dont steal!

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[Thread] Anonymous debate DESU, when memes die, and 4chans cultural decline [/b/]

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1 Name:Anonymous 2021/10/26(Tue)17:57

It started with a question; "Why is kuz so-anti desu?", followed by a quote.

The first meaningful reply:

Every now and again something mildly funny will come along that the "LOW EFFORT REPETITION = FUNNY, SPAMMING THREADS/BOARDS = EPIC TROLL" crowd latches on to, and they'll spam it everywhere for weeks/months/years until it's so passé, unfunny, and boring that nobody* could possibly enjoy it even if they tried

*Those who do claim to still enjoy it are usually one of the following:
A: those who weren't there but believe it's an "epic oldfag meme"
B: those who were there but were underageb&/n00bs at the time
C: the fags who were spamming it

DESU spam was one of those things. It's not the worst example evar, and in retrospect it almost seems quaint, but it was symptomatic of /b/'s rapidly growing problems at that time

Anonymous comes in with:

I'm B, and I see nothing wrong with desuspamming in itself; it's simply one type of humor from the old days that adds variety to an imageboard/forum/community/etc. Every old meme, joke, catchphrase, etc. offers its own unique flavor, and (to use the common phrase) isn't variety the spice of life?

Of course, if *every* post were to become repetitive walls of "DESU DESU DESU", then this would get very tedious and boring very quickly, but the same could be said if every post were to become, e.g., a WAHA post or an image of Tomo or a demotivator or the 9001st variation of the same catchphrase. But if we haven't reached that point, then why be so against desuspamming? It's simply one important piece of the puzzle from the old culture that contributes to the fun. Sometimes we're in the mood for image macros, sometimes for trolling, sometimes for valuable discussions about anime, and other times for simple desuspamming -- they all their place, because one can't replace the other.

Reply:

Totally agreed, but you have to admit that DESU spam in particular is very, VERY tired - even on a board that generally relishes in digging up stuff from the past. It's one of the handful of memes that everyone immediately jumps to when they think of "old/b/", despite it not actually being that old

I mean, it's old in a "2006 was 15 years ago, WTF I'M IN MY 30s sweat" sense, but it's not "golden age of /b/" or pre-4chan old like some of the other stuff that gets posted here. It's more of a "We are legion, Habbo raids, Tom Green, IMMA FIRIN' MAH LAZER" old - still fun in small doses, but a lot of that stuff overstayed its welcome and heralded a new age of fail and AIDS

And on Heyuri specifically, DESU has stolen way too many of our GETs - including our precious 10KGET. Nevar forget

Some more back and forth later;

>I would consider both 2006 and 2007 as indisputably belonging to /b/'s golden age
Pretty much everyone seems to think that their first year or two was the golden age, LOL. Some people think it was raids and Hal Turner, others think it was Trollface and Boxxy, and others think it was YOU DUN GOOFED and PUDDI PUDDI. And for each respective wave, there was an earlier-but-shrinking population thinking "this bullshit is why /b/ sux now!"

Hell, in recent years I've even seen people saying that [events in 2014-2016] are what ruined 4chan closed-eyes2

>would you really argue that /b/ had already peaked before that event?
I'd hazard a guess and say it probably peaked the day it opened, but I'd personally consider "the golden age of /b/" to be 2003-2005. 2006 was hit-and-miss, 2007-2008 were mostly fail, and pretty much everything beyond that falls under RULE FUCKING 8

>The fail, cancer, and AIDS, in my opinion, didn't really come in until Chanology started in 2008
/b/ had sucked for quite a while by that point, and the terms "newfag" and "THE CANCER KILLING /B/" had already been well-established and overused to death

Project Chanology in its earliest form was perfectly in line with everything else that had been going on throughout 2006-2007 - it's just that 4chan and "Anonymous" had become so large and notorious by that point (mostly thanks to all the raids!) that when it spilled out into IRL, the knock-on effect it had on /b/ and the rest of 4chan was that much greater

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2 Name:Anonymous 2021/10/26(Tue)18:01

>I'd hazard a guess and say it probably peaked the day it opened
Lol, if you mean this literally, then I'm doubtful that this is the best way to look at things: many communities often need time to develop, accumulate users, and establish norms, in-jokes, values, and a distinct culture before they can enter a "golden age". From what I've read of the earliest days, /b/ and 4chan didn't have its own unique culture at that time, but was mostly operating from borrowed SA and Japanese textboard/imageboard culture. (Of course, if this is what you enjoy, then I can't really argue otherwise, but it's not my personal preference.)

Also, that image you posted fills me with both admiration for and disappointment in moot -- admiration for his extreme hesitation to moderate /b/ (which is absolutely consistent with the board's freewheeling culture), and disappointment over his dislike of raiding/invasions/doxing (which are also respected /b/ traditions). While definitely not the *only* characteristic of /b/, I still consider raiding/invasions/doxing to be such a core part of what the board is/was that it's difficult for me to perceive a /b/ without them as part of the "golden age". I think that /b/ was at its best when it was most active and chaotic, and therefore most unpredictable, and therefore most thrilling and fun -- when it was the Internet Hate Machine filled with bored anons who wanted to troll, dox, and raid for the simple lulz of it all, the guys who had no qualms about anything and looked down on moralfags, and who also enjoyed gore, black comedy, and endless transgression. (See pic related.) 4chan's and /b/'s wildest and most unpredictable years were probably 2005-2007, and this I consider its golden age.

In response:

I can see why someone would have a fondness for raids and associated anarchy if that's what drew them to 4chan/7chan/whatever in the first place, but that's just not at all what /b/ was about prior to the big bukkake over "Anonymous" and raids. There were tons of older users lamenting over the changing culture at the time (moot being one of the more outspoken ones), but they mostly got drowned out by the rapidly growing "being assholes is fun!" userbase who proceeded to drag the entire site down with them

Heyuri isn't about that though - it's about bringing back the earlier "zany/creative interwebs humor + weird/otaku/fappable japanese shit" spirit, rather than the later "lets raid/dox/troll ____ for the lulz" one that brought the real AIDS in. I'd haet to see the faganons of the world move in here because they mistakenly think we're trying to emulate the worst parts of the 2006-2007 era, when that's precisely what we're not doing

Someone else chimes in:

>I still consider raiding/invasions/doxing to be such a core part of what the board is/was that it's difficult for me to perceive a /b/ without them as part of the "golden age". I think that /b/ was at its best when it was most active and chaotic, and therefore most unpredictable, and therefore most thrilling and fun -- when it was the Internet Hate Machine filled with bored anons who wanted to troll, dox, and raid for the simple lulz of it all, the guys who had no qualms about anything and looked down on moralfags, and who also enjoyed gore, black comedy, and endless transgression. (See pic related.)
That's just being a teenage boy. It's not some mythical max level of badassitude forever inaccessible to internet dwellers of today. You can get your transgression right now by going to 4chan /gif/ and searching for fight threads, animal torture threads, BBC cck threads, etc. or start some yourself. Or post some CP on /b/. You'll get banned and your thread will be deleted, but no faster than if you had done it in 2006. You can also visit soijak party and its /raid/ board.
I liked it too when I was that age, but I like it less now.

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3 Name:Anonymous 2021/10/26(Tue)18:01

The thread ends with this post;

Well, I wasn't drawn to 4chan only by the raids and anarchy that characterized it in 2006/2007, of course: I also greatly enjoyed the memes, cleverness, and "zany/creative interwebs humor + weird/otaku/fappable japanese shit" you mentioned, and consider all that an equally essential part of old /b/ culture. It's fantastic that Heyuri is here trying -- and succeeding -- in recapturing that old spirit, and that, in 2021, I can likely find moar OC and quality content in one page of its /b/ than I can find in the whole of 4chan's /b/, but, at the same time, to me it does feel like a large and important aspect of old /b/ is missing, namely, the raiding.

I'm not saying that Heyuri should become a raid-focused site: an imageboard/community dedicated to raiding/invasions 24/7 can be exciting and lulzy at first, but it'll get tiring pretty quickly if the community never relaxes and partakes in non-raiding-oriented fun discussions on occassion. Meanwhile, Heyuri as it currently exists is definitely funny and enjoyable to read, but, at the end of the day, it's also passive; it doesn't *do* anything -- it just posts and discusses. Both things are needed to complete the puzzle, and it's entirely possible to have both in balance, without one overtaking the other; the /b/ that I once knew was like this, and the two in combination are what made it so unique, fun, and special.

Of course, from a practical standpoint I highly doubt that it's even possible for Heyuri in its current state to conduct raids, so the question is not really relevant, but if this site grew large enough, I would very much enjoy seeing them happen.

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